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Title P.Herc. 380
Work Philodemus, De rhetorica
Content Philodemus; De rhetorica (peri rhetorikes)? (Gomperz)
Reference Edition 83856. Siegfried Sudhaus, Philodemi Volumina Rhetorica, (Lipsiae 1896). fr. 1 fr. 3 fr. 5 leer leer
Previous Edition 83872. Herculanensium Voluminum quae supersunt. Collectio altera, (Napoli 1874).
Fragments P.Herc. 380 fr. 1; P.Herc. 380 fr. 3; P.Herc. 380 fr. 5; P.Herc. 380 fr. 2; P.Herc. 380 fr. 4
Support Material papyrus
Date I v. Chr.
More from the period between 100 BCE and 1 BCE
Origin Herculaneum (Campania, Italy) oder Italy (?)
More from Herculaneum (Campania, Italy) oder Italy (?)
Place Stored (Ancient) Pisones,  Herculaneum,  Italy
Form and Layout papyrus roll (columns: 5+)
Genre prose; philosophy
Culture literature
Religion classical
Images chartes.it/.../400; chartes.it/.../1760
Print Illustrations G. Cavallo, Libri scritture scribi a Ercolano, Naples 1983, pl. 49; G. Cavallo, Pap. Flor. 36, pl. 32d; Segno e Testo 8 (2010), pl. 4
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More from Herculaneum (Campania, Italy) oder Italy (?)

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fragment 1P.Herc. 380 fr. 1
Sketched by Giovanni Battista Casanova
Engraved by Luigi Corazza

ὁμ[ο]ίως, τέχνη δ' ἐγένε-
το τοῦ καλῶς, ὃ̣ καὶ ἐκ[ά-]
λουν το[ῦ πι]στικῶς, ἡ̣ [τέ-]
χνη δ' ἐγ[έ]νετο τοῦ κα̣λῶ̣ς·
5ὥστε καὶ τὸ λέγειν ἡ φ[ύ-]
[σ]ις ἔδωκ̣εν, τὸ δὲ καλῶς
[λ]έγ̣ειν ἡ τέχνη· καθὸ δὴ
ται  ̣αιτ  ̣  ̣λ̣ι̣  ̣η  ̣  ̣  ̣α  ̣
τοῦτον α[ -ca.?- ]
fragment 3P.Herc. 380 fr. 3
Sketched by Giovanni Battista Casanova
Engraved by Carlo Orazi

τονπη  ̣ωι. Π̣ῶς δ' ἐλθόν-
τε[ς] ἐπὶ τοῦτο μακρὰν
νῦν διδά[σ]κ̣ειν καο  ̣δη
κα[  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣  ̣μ]ὴ̣ πολλ[ὰ]ς
5τέχνας φ̣ύσει [ἔχειν τὰς]
με[ι]μήσεις; διὸ καὶ πάν-
τα ταῦτα [φύσ]ε[ι] ὑπόκε[ι-]
ται  ̣  ̣  ̣ι̣ν̣λ̣  ̣λαμενου
[- ca.12 -] μεν[  ̣  ̣]
fragment 4P.Herc. 380 fr. 4
Sketched by Giovanni Battista Casanova
Engraved by Carlo Orazi

0[ὅπως δή]
ποτ̣[ε] καὶ ὡς ἔτυ̣[χ̣]εν καὶ
φύσεως ἔργον, τὸ δὲ κα-
λῶς τέχνης· ἐμοὶ μὲν
γὰρ καὶ τοῦτο φαίνεται,
5σὺ δὲ καὶ αὐτὸς κρείνεις δύ
νασθαι π̣αρὰ̣ σ̣οῦ. Πᾶσαι α̣ἱ
λε[γό]μεναι στο̣χαστικαὶ
τέ̣[χ]να[ι], ὧν τὰ μὲν θεω-
ρήμ̣α[θ]' ἕστηκ̣εν τ̣[ὰ] δ̣ὲ τέ-
10[λη οὐχ] ἕστηκ[εν]
fragment 5P.Herc. 380 fr. 5
Sketched by Giovanni Battista Casanova
Engraved by Francesco Biondi

πολλάκις ἐκ τῆς τέχνης
ἐπιγείνεται̣· διὸ καὶ λί̣[αν λέ-]
γει μέν τις ἄφρον· εἰ σα̣φῶ̣ς,
καὶ πιστικῶς, διὰ δὲ τ̣[ο]ῦ-
5το̣ καὶ καλῶς φύσει, χά-
ριν δὲ τοῦ καὶ πολλάκις
τούτου τυνχάνειν τ[έ-]
χνης δεῖται. Τούτ[ων τοι-]
[γαρο]ῦ̣ν οὕτως ἐχόν[των]

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